Dr Ruth DeSouza is an academic based at RMIT University in Melbourne, Victoria.


She hosts a podcast called Birthing and Justice during which she has conversations "about birth, racism and cultural safety with change makers working within the maternal health-care sector…”


In the first episode of Series 4, she speaks with Jacynta Krakouer and Indigo Willing about the “history and politics of out-of-home care and inter-country adoption”.


While we might think there is no connection between the adoption of Vietnamese children during “Operation Baby-Lift” and the Stolen Generation, the speakers talk about how (American) imperialism and (British) colonization are responsible for both. The impacts are still being felt in Australia today.